From: Jef (jknoors@zonnet.nl)
Date: Sun Oct 01 2000 - 22:55:49 CEST
On 1 Oct 2000, at 15:39, Michele Andreoli wrote:
> B
> On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 11:57:19AM +0100, Alfred Breull nicely wrote:
> >
> > i [1] really like to know why to upgrade a running mulinux ?
> >
> > usually, you upgrade because of bugs, security holes or new/ different
> > hardware. in mulinux, upgrades may also involve smaller or more elegant
> > solutions of existing scripts, programs or earlier versions.
> >
>
> The 2th you said. Please, follow the links "Release Notes", in the
> DOWNLOAD bar, in the homesite. I wrote:
>
> ---------------------------
> "best part of improvements are
> not for the 'end user'. So, to download this release is not a
> great benefit for the mean user with only PPP internet connection"
> ---------------------------
>
> If you need no NFSroot capability, 10.x isn't for you. If you need no
> simultaneus PPP daemons (for example: toward your ISP and toward
> a direct connected PC), 10.x is not for you. If you need no PLIP (
> i.e. network connection using parallel port), 10.x is NOT for you.
>
> If you do not wish to implement a own addon, well: do not download 10.x,
> because in 10.x to add a new addon is too easy.
>
> If you have <=1 ethernet card, please mantain 9.x; the same conclusion.
>
> If you, using 9.x, will do "ppp-off" you kill the pppd daemon at all, shutting
> down also other non-ISP serial connections.
>
> > please, don't understand this as flame. i really like to know.
> > so, once again, why to upgrade a running mulinux system ?
>
> I need encouragements from you, not viceversa, of course.
> New releases are for new users: when changes are truly relevants,
> I usually will inform using the mailing-list (but usually, they
> never are, unfortunately).
>
> I run happyly my 10.3 release, because I can now connect three
> computers using only serial ports, running NFS, samba and ftp over
> a 3-pin line.
>
> But what you told is perfectly true:
> as far the user-side is concerned (X-Window, applications, in a
> single word: the addons), 5.x or 6.x are good as well. I usually do
> not spent much time on the addons. They have no appeal for me.
> To mantain a such amount of mega-and-mega of (more-or-less) buggy software,
> is out of the possibilities for a single human with standard capabilities.
>
> My only interest is the root.gz archive: if I add something in this
> 1/2 Mbytes, well: I learned something new; if I successfull remove
> something from it, well: I learned two good thing. From my point of view,
> muLinux is not 20Mb, but 1/2 Mb located in root.gz.
>
> The operating system IS root.gz: USR and other are only brute material.
> Rarely changes in root.gz impacts on the remaining functionalities,
> but this is a feature, not a bug.
>
> > i think that close to nothing has changed between 6r4 and 9r3.
>
> Because You are (frankly speaking) a superficial observer. Nothing
> happened in Mathematics from V Century A.C., if you only use the
> four basic operation (calling VNC and PCMCIA nothing, of course).
> Accepting your point of view, why to upgrade
> the kernel from 1.2.13 to 2.4.0? The kernel 1.2.13 was able to
> recognize all my hardware! The work on muLinux is not comparable
> with the incredible task on the Linux kernel, but the argument is
> similar.
>
> This is the result of many years in using Microsoft products: why
> to make efforts in *to understand* when I can simply *to use*?
> Acceptable for an executive secretary, but for you?
>
> Please, abandon this philosophy!
> If the problem would be only to download some email from Internet,
> well I never installed any sort of Linux.
>
>
> Michele
I agree somewhat with both of you, I never did upgrade windoze95,
because it worked after removing all the bugs. I still use it while
typing this mail. Most functional for the purpose I need it for.
Using muLinux and upgrading, installing, cloning and customizing,
I do for a different reason, the grey cell's need a consant challange
otherwise they will slowly degenerate. For me muLinux fit's a great
purpose: studying the working of a system. I would get very
frustrated if I had to do my daily work at my office with this
distrobution.
Greeting, Jef Knoors
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